43 Once they’d got back to the station, Father Joseph had been booked in by the custody sergeant and placed in a holding cell. Having accepted the offer of the on-call duty solicitor, the interview had been delayed to allow the solicitor to arrive, be briefed and for Culverhouse and Knight to prepare for the interview. By then, the sun was starting to rise. With the four settled into the interview room, Culverhouse proceeded to start the recording. He gave the names of those present and stated the circumstances surrounding Father Joseph Kümmel’s arrest. ‘First things first, can you tell me about the community at Hilltop Farm? What’s its purpose?’ Father Joseph spoke without even glancing at his solicitor. ‘It’s a religious community. We choose to live in segregation from the outside wo

