debate on piers Morgan between two opponentsUpdated at Nov 27, 2023, 15:51
Let's address and analyze the content matter: 1. The exchange of hostages with criminalsClaim made: " we exchanged innocent civilians for "criminals" --- fallacy committed: statical generalization that does not accurately mirror that of the whole thousands of phalestinians held under detention i.e. held without charge. --- fallacy committed: cherry picking. That is assuming what pro-isreali activist claims of crimes committed. One can argue that the IDF hand picked specific individuals, those with convictions - in order to paint a faulty picture of all "prisoners" - hence justifying holding phalestinians captive indefinitely. --- If what pro-phalesistian liberation activist has claimed is true, "children are given 20 years for throwing stones" - than one might wonder why none of those "prisoners" were released. -- Is it because it is absurd to believe someone would throw a stone at a perceived militant whose nation-state occupies their land ? Perhaps. Next point: --- Is Humus a resistance group ? Of course! That would just be ignorant for one to deny.The real question is: is the way Humus resists both legal and moral?-Legally under international law, amred resistance is justified if said group is under occupation. BUT, if they are not under occupation and gaza is a nation-state then domestically and that is IF and ONLY if a nation-state with sovereignty exists, than it would be illegal and considered an aggression worthy of a declaration of war. --¿☆☆is Gaza a nation-state ?☆☆¿Next,It is the case that Isreals justification for killing 20k+ civilians because of an attack made on its citizenry and now is after the militants who committed said atrocities and the 20k+ civilians are causalities of the war. But what is the case of Humus ? And should the same standard be applied to them? Are we allowed to question the application of the principles which justify military aggressions. Before that one must ask: is Gaza a nation-state with sovereignty in order to make the claim that they have broken the law?And; Are Humus the defense forces of the phalestinians ? Or are there non-state actors with political agendas rendering them by legal definition, terrorists? Either they are resisting occupation or have a nation-state and committed a justified or non-justified act of aggression against another sovereign nation or are non-state actors with political agendas. We don't know! But what we do know is that it does not have control over its borders - land, air and sea. Thats another topic for another day ----let's continue to address the case for isreals choice not to ceasefire. It assumes gaza is a nation-state, and that militants are hiding amongst the population.--- a war can only be declared against two nation-states. If it is an occupation, than Isreal has committed war-crimes against the people it is occupying. The burden of proof is on Isreal and up to date, there is no evidence that suggests beyond reasonable doubt that phalestinians are being used as human shields by the militant army called Humus. But since the morality of humus attack is the key to isreals justification of the massacres in gaza, lets address the moral stance: Armed resistance against civilians is never justified but this does not mean that the civilian casualties are targeted offensives (the claim that both sides are making). Did Humus knowingly and intentionally target civilians? And is isreal actually justified in the civilian casualties provided no proof is offered for the human shield assumption? According to different sources, there is no clear indication that Humus knew a rave was going on and in one particular body cam of the militants, someone can be heard asking: "are you a soilder" indicating that distinctions were being made. In short the real essence of a ceasefire was not addresses at all! It stands still and true to date that Isreal is targeting prohibited and internationally protected sites- such as hospitals, without any proof that they are military Hotspots. All while assuming gaza is a nation-state capable of conducting a war. Who is lying and who is telling the truth is a question that must be assessed using data accumulated from past events to draw reliability on the sources we take information from. What all parties have agreed upon is 1) hostages were taken by Humus. 2) civilians died 3) gaza bombarded 4) ceasefire is demanded Provided what we know and do not know, it is imperative to ceasefire considering the life of innocent phalestinians are the cost of the information war. -Nonetheless, questions addressing who did what, when where and how can be assessed critically without killing innocent men women and children And only then, A solution can then be proposed.